JENNYS CHALLENGE !!!!

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JENNYS CHALLENGE !!!!

Post  Jenny Ryan on Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:47 pm

I want to see if anyone is confident enough to pull this conversion off ?



I found it while looking for reference for my Marder II build . It is a field conversion of a Panzer II (not a marder II) with a 5cm Pak & unpainted side armour . Whoever takes up the challenge , I have pictures of the interior , Ammo stowage boxes on the back , & the front armour plate .

Sooooo Suspect Is anyone game to accept the challenge ?

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Re: JENNYS CHALLENGE !!!!

Post  Kreighshoer on Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:49 pm

Jenny Croft wrote:Sooooo Suspect Is anyone game to accept the challenge ?

richie?

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Post  Richie on Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:18 am

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richie?

Yes Laura , what would you like ? Very Happy If I had the time & talent I would consider it !

I am thinking more along the lines of maybe Luiz or Rick .

Richie

PS Laura , I am volunteering you for the next Jenny Challenge ! Razz

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Post  Jenny Ryan on Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:37 am

Well if there was a conversion kit , I would make it !

Hmmmmm A Jenny Challenge for Laura & she has to make it ! Hmmmmmm

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Post  Kreighshoer on Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:41 am

Jenny Croft wrote:Hmmmmm A Jenny Challenge for Laura & she has to make it ! Hmmmmmm

affraid

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Nice images

Post  Panzer on Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:45 pm

Nice images, where did you dig these up at? Sweet.
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Re: JENNYS CHALLENGE !!!!

Post  Jenny Ryan on Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:03 pm

Panzer wrote:Nice images, where did you dig these up at? Sweet.
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They come from the Bunderarchev website Chris . I will send you the set if you want to build this beasty Very Happy . Then Chris we would all be humbled by your build ! You could be the first person ever to make a model of this in 1/35th scale EVER !!!!

Since the vehicle has not got a name I call it a Pander ( half Panzer half Marder ) Very Happy

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Re: JENNYS CHALLENGE !!!!

Post  Ruben Lopez on Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:39 pm

Jenny, that is called an "5cm PaK 38 L/60 auf Fahrgestell Panzerkampfwagen II (Sf)"
It would require the mating of a PaK 38 (Dragon #6444 would be good) and a panzer IIc A, B or C chassis with interiors. (Again Dragon's would fit perfectly.) All that topped with a scratch built armoured superstructure, gun mount and ammo boxes. Doesn't sound too complicated, like doing the interior of my Italeri 234/4.

Darn! How I'd love to do it!

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Post  fledermaus on Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:06 am

Nice rare subject Jenny, well we voodoo boys can do one each (right Ruben????) just send the photos so we can have a better idea of the spell ....I mean work needed to make this into a voodoo-fahrgestell II...... Shocked Very Happy

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Post  Jose A. Azorin on Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:23 am

Really a great challenge, Jenny. I'll post your challenge in Panzernet forum. Maybe some modeller faces up it.

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More pictures

Post  Jenny Ryan on Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:06 am

Well here are the rest of the pictures I found ! I think "Pander" suits it better than what you said Ruben Razz ! Plus you are good friends with the person who thought up the name Wink !





Note the measurements (these may help if scaled down ) on the armoured plate . Also note the holes in the Guns armour plates & the darker (primer red) where the hinge flap for the lower plate are removed .



Note the carriage axle from the original gun is still a part of the mount .


Note the 5cm ammo boxes ( just released from Griffon ) on the floor & in the ammo stowage box on the back . It is most definately a Pz II not a reworked Marder as you can see by the tool stowage on the fender . Therefore the interior bits from the original PZ II should be light sand in colour .

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Post  Ruben Lopez on Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:20 pm

Jenny Croft wrote: I think "Pander" suits it better than what you said Ruben Razz ! Plus you are good friends with the person who thought up the name Wink !

I have to concede that point, "Pander" is better than the other name.

I wish the ones who thought up the name were my friends. Shocked The name was taken from the "Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War Two" by Peter Cahmberlain and Hilary Doyle. In page 41 there are two photos of it.

I'm seriously thinking about doing it but that will depend on how much time tha Bison I takes me so maybe...

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So can we cal this T.D. a Pander II, LOL!

Post  Panzer on Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:30 pm

So can we cal this T.D. a Pander II, LOL!
Nice images.
Pander! Oops I mean Panzer! LOL!

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I am considering it-

Post  jdun91764 on Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:35 pm

I will check "stock" at the homestead tonight to see if I can magae what is needed. I am quite sure I have the gun and the Panzer 2 chassis- plus I just completed 2 Panzer 2's and have a pretty good stock of spares. The shild from a Marder 2 may be able to be rworked for those components- like the welded pieces on the sides like "splash guards".

Let me mull this one over- it does not look too complicated (as most builds did not that ended up kicking my A$$)-

It really is a beauty of a conversion project- not too over the top but very unusual.

James

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Re: JENNYS CHALLENGE !!!!

Post  Kreighshoer on Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:07 pm

so that means that you take the challenge?

shall i add you to the list with this vehicle?

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Pander......

Post  HCU1652 on Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:36 am

Is anyone actually building this variant?

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Not yet

Post  Jenny Ryan on Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:46 am

We have not got a taker as yet who has , so if you want to take on the Jenny challenge that would be great ! Very Happy

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Pondering a Pander

Post  HCU1652 on Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:59 am

There is an Alan PzII Ausf C in the stash, as well as a Pak 38 or two. I’ll have to get a Dragon PzII for the interior and Griffon’s Pak 38 ammo boxes, but.....

If I can get some photos of the rear bulkhead on the PzII and some interior shots then I’ll accept this challenge.

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Re: JENNYS CHALLENGE !!!!

Post  Jenny Ryan on Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:05 am

Well they are all the photos I could find , I guess that is part of the challenge Very Happy . That will be cool as it is a distinctive looking vehicle .

I am sure anyone on forum will help if there is a question with anything .

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Just Pondering

Post  HCU1652 on Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:12 am

Thanks Jenny

The photos that are needed of the rear bulkhead and interior will be of a stock PzII Ausf C. As this vehicle was based on the PzII Ausf C, I don’t see there being any difference.

The true challenge is getting the bare armour plating the correct colour and all those different blues that the welds would have....

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Re: JENNYS CHALLENGE !!!!

Post  Jenny Ryan on Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:20 am

Well I will get Laura to add you to our build ! Very Happy She will contact you by PM .

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Re: JENNYS CHALLENGE !!!!

Post  holmerz on Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:46 pm

Hi

I stumpled upon this picture. Isn't this the same type of vehicle?



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Post  G Cooper on Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:37 pm

holmerz wrote:Hi

I stumpled upon this picture. Isn't this the same type of vehicle?



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Yep that's the beastie alright. Now the question is, has it been painted or not. If so, what color.
It looks to me like it has been painted. So that gives two choices of finish.

It also looks like there have been some horizontal stiffners added to the field mod spaced armor beside the gun.

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Post  Richard Marchand on Wed May 27, 2009 4:20 pm

Just saw this one over at ML and thought you may like it: 50mm Pak 38 on Pz II

Quite a fine build I must say.

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Post  Noel-Petroni on Wed May 27, 2009 10:52 pm

Fabio did a fantastic job on that vehicle! (ML)

I especially like the weld seams...so realistic!

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